bart_calendar ([info]bart_calendar) wrote,
@ 2008-05-18 12:41:00
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Madona/Whore
Watching the new Rolling Stones concert movie last night I was struck by both the way women are portrayed in their songs and by the almost casual racism of their lyrics.

The female characters are always either manipulative bitches or else written about in the most romantic terms possible. There is no middle ground.

The racism ("Black girls just wanna get fucked all night", for example) is odder, since all of the Stones' real life heroes are black.

I wonder if the sexism and racism is all just an act - a way for Mick to feel like a "bad boy" or if deep down he is an elitist xenophobic asshat.

On another note, whomever did the French subtitles was on crack.

At one point Mick says "Yo! Motherfuckers!" and the subtitle is "Bonjour, mes amis." Later, he says "You are a wonderful crowd" and the subtitle is "Vous etes terrible."



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[info]charlotte_webb
2008-05-18 01:51 pm UTC (link)
Well, considering that "Brown Sugar" is the most blatantly racist song still being played on the airwaves, I don't think it's an act. They may worship black musicians, but their lyrics imagine black women as sexy animals.

And Bart, hate to say it because I like the Stones a lot myself, as you know: appreciating black music/entertainment doesn't mean you're not a racist.

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[info]bart_calendar
2008-05-18 01:54 pm UTC (link)
I didn't mean to imply that liking black music means you are not racist. It's just odd.

It was just odd. I usually don't think about their lyrics very much. But when you are in a movie theater and can't sing along with the songs it makes you think about the words more.

And some of the lyrics are horribly racist and sexist.

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[info]charlotte_webb
2008-05-18 01:57 pm UTC (link)
Biz Markie and Chris Rock wrote a response to "Brown Sugar" in which the refrain is "White Bitches" ("do shit no sister would"). It's funny, although it sure doesn't solve the sexism issue. But it does make you realize how different "Brown Sugar" must sound from the other side; I grew up not even thinking about it.

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[info]bart_calendar
2008-05-18 01:59 pm UTC (link)
"I grew up not even thinking about it."

Me too.

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[info]monkey1976
2008-05-18 07:13 pm UTC (link)
if you feel bad about it try listening to "cave bitch" by ice cube. it's horrendously racist against white females.

(also funny, but that's probably implied)

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[info]missmimesis
2008-05-18 09:28 pm UTC (link)

At one point Mick says "Yo! Motherfuckers!" and the subtitle is "Bonjour, mes amis."

for some reason this seems like the funniest thing i've heard in ages. I can't stop laughing about it.

as for the other one though, isn't "terrible" kinda slang for "awesome"?

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[info]bart_calendar
2008-05-18 09:31 pm UTC (link)
Maybe "terrible" is a word for awesome in Parisian slang. I asked several French people here in Montpellier, however, and they've never heard "terrible" in that context.

That said, we are a long, long way from Paris, so it's possible that slang just hasn't made it down here.

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