bart_calendar ([info]bart_calendar) wrote,
@ 2007-12-22 03:31:00
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Not To Get Off On A Rant Here
But the Associated Press released their list of the top 10 news stories of the year.

Shockingly Lohan, Paris, the Spears Family, Winehouse and Ritchie didn't make the cut.

I'm being serious. Sure, each one on it's own isn't that big a deal, but the slow breakdown and collapse of young famous women was the news story of the year. Taken as a whole it's overwhelming. I can't remember a year where so many young women in the spotlight disintegrated in front of our eyes.

It's the end of the certain type of innocence, the death of the American dream and the opening of our eyes to a system that seems designed to destroy young women all rolled up into one.

I can't remember in my lifetime ever seeing someone in the spotlight so quickly and consistently break down as Spears did this year. And then Lohan happened. Along the way Paris lost her allure. And then Winehouse and now Jamie Lynne.

Whether or not you are interested in these stories doesn't really matter - because it does symbolize some sort of huge change in the way we look at celebrities - particularly if they are young, female and pretty.

It would be like if our parents generation had to watch Judy Garland, Marilyn Monroe and Janis Joplin all breakdown together in a matter of months.

No one is protecting these people anymore. There doesn't even seem to be a system to sweep problems under the rug or put some sort of positive spin on them.

We've been delivered from innocence, people, and all that's left is the scent of burning meth, dirty diapers and the look of smug superiority from people who should know better.




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[info]mattg
2007-12-22 12:02 pm UTC (link)
As interesting as that stuff is to some folks, it's not news, and certainly not top-10. And comparing these twits to Judy Garland, Marilyn Monroe and Janis Joplin is just insulting.

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[info]bart_calendar
2007-12-22 12:03 pm UTC (link)
It certainly is news. It wouldn't be news if just one of them happened. But taken as a whole it's a very important sociological trend.

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[info]mattg
2007-12-22 01:30 pm UTC (link)
No, shit like this happens to people every single day, and has happened to people every single day for decades. This is only "news" because they happen to be famous for some reason.

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[info]charlotte_webb
2007-12-22 02:02 pm UTC (link)
Bingo. You could argue that Monroe wasn't the best actress in the world, but she was an icon. And the other two were real artists.

Maybe part of what you should consider, Bart, is that with the exception of Winehouse (and maybe Britney, who would be nothing without an army of writers, producers, and choreographers), none of the young women you listed really deserve to be famous at all. They are just a bunch of not that pretty, not that bright girls who happened to be in the right place at the right time.

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[info]radiumhead
2007-12-22 02:04 pm UTC (link)
What about Lohan? She's an actress. She's been one since she was a kid. It's not like shes famous for doing nothing!

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(no subject) - [info]charlotte_webb, 2007-12-22 02:06 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]bart_calendar, 2007-12-22 02:13 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]bart_calendar, 2007-12-22 02:20 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]charlotte_webb, 2007-12-22 02:22 pm UTC
yup. - [info]radiumhead, 2007-12-22 02:38 pm UTC
Re: yup. - [info]bart_calendar, 2007-12-22 02:45 pm UTC
Re: yup. - [info]radiumhead, 2007-12-22 02:53 pm UTC
Re: yup. - [info]bart_calendar, 2007-12-22 02:55 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]bart_calendar, 2007-12-22 02:39 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]charlotte_webb, 2007-12-22 02:44 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]bart_calendar, 2007-12-22 02:47 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]radiumhead, 2007-12-22 02:15 pm UTC
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[info]bart_calendar
2007-12-22 02:11 pm UTC (link)
Right and then them all imploded at the same time.

The story that's big isn't "britney goes crazy" it's that all these women, some talented, some not, dominated the news with stories of their self destruction.

It was like a whirlwind and sociologically speaking fascinating. Who knows if it's just a pop culture machine that turns average women into celebrities that is finally turning on itself, or a culture that seeks to elevate people before they destroy them or simply a different way stars are made and/or covered by the news media.

Whatever it is - and I'm not saying I know what it is - something fundemental changed this year.

And it's ridiculous to pretend that it doesn't matter simply because they are not that talented. In fact, the fact that they lack a lot of talent may mark it as an even more fundemental change.

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(no subject) - [info]charlotte_webb, 2007-12-22 02:15 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]bart_calendar, 2007-12-22 02:22 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]charlotte_webb, 2007-12-22 02:25 pm UTC

[info]webvictim
2007-12-22 08:10 pm UTC (link)
Hear hear - I wholeheartedly agree with you.

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[info]radiumhead
2007-12-22 02:03 pm UTC (link)
Janis Joplin, maybe.

The other two, no. They're not any better than Lindsey Lohan.

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[info]charlotte_webb
2007-12-22 02:04 pm UTC (link)
Sorry, but you obviously know nothing about the extent of Garland's career beyond "The Wizard of Oz."

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(no subject) - [info]bart_calendar, 2007-12-22 02:12 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]charlotte_webb, 2007-12-22 02:13 pm UTC
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[info]sushis
2007-12-22 03:10 pm UTC (link)
I completely agree with you ( with [info]mattg in the first comment. )

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[info]sui_generis
2007-12-29 12:19 pm UTC (link)



Agreed.


One persons fanciful obsession is not top 10 news. Just because it's important to a few doesn't qualify it as being truly universal news affecting everyone.

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[info]spidermouse
2007-12-22 12:57 pm UTC (link)
The Iraq War is lower than the Virginia Tech shootings? I know it has been going on awhile now but :/ And I hadn't even realised there had been a mortgage crisis in America.

I'd put a lot of things above a bridge collapsing, too :/ Mind you, the number of votes this poll got is a bit laughable.

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[info]radiumhead
2007-12-22 02:02 pm UTC (link)
I have two theories on this.

1.Famous women aren't getting any crazier, it's just getting reported more.
2.It's a coincidence that all this shit is happening now-I don't think society is getting crazier, or something.

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[info]bart_calendar
2007-12-22 02:07 pm UTC (link)
I think you are right - but that doesn't change my premise that something fundamentally changed this year with the way the public and the media deal with famous young women.

And that in and of itself was one of the biggest stories of the year - because face it the Iraq war didn't change much from last year, but the way we see these young women certainly did.

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[info]spqr_ragazza
2007-12-22 04:22 pm UTC (link)
You said this here more articulately than you did in your original post, which is why, I'm guessing, that everyone's going all apeshit.

But, to be fair, the phenomenon you're mentioning is more of a process piece, no? Like, a news article about how the news was reported?

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[info]gentlemaitresse
2007-12-22 02:03 pm UTC (link)
a system that seems designed to destroy young women

What system is designed to destroy young women?

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[info]bart_calendar
2007-12-22 02:08 pm UTC (link)
The celebrity star system.

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[info]charlotte_webb
2007-12-22 02:12 pm UTC (link)
There are plenty of examples that run counter to what you say, but we don't talk about them. Normal young actresses who act normal. As opposed to dumb young girls from fame and money hungry families who do the same stupid shit normal teenagers do, except in the limelight.

It's insulting to view Britney and her sister and Hilton and Richie as representative of "young women."

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(no subject) - [info]bart_calendar, 2007-12-22 02:16 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]mel_blog, 2007-12-22 02:31 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]bart_calendar, 2007-12-22 02:42 pm UTC
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[info]mel_blog
2007-12-22 02:30 pm UTC (link)
You know, sure maybe this 'thing' with these girls is a story (what's not a story, really?), but how you think it can be the "news story of the year" is the ahh, intresting thing here to me. Amazing.

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[info]bart_calendar
2007-12-22 02:43 pm UTC (link)
I'm not sure its "the" news story of the year, but I think it's in the top 10.

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[info]sushis
2007-12-22 03:22 pm UTC (link)
As [info]gentlemaitresse indicated, these are just sad stories about attractive, *lucky* on some level, but ultimately unremarkable young women who behaved unwisely. Go to any trailer park or apartment building or housing project, you'll find a dozen women of equal attractiveness and personal charm who just can't get their shit together, and end up suffering for it.

It's sad, but it's not the epic downfall of great actresses or artists. It's sad, but only for the people who care about these people *personally*. It's not a loss for the culture.

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[info]bart_calendar
2007-12-22 03:24 pm UTC (link)
But these stories were the zeitgeist of 2007.

Each individual story is not important.

It's the sum total of all the stories and how they became the "thing" that everyone was talking about that is news.

It's a fundamental shift in the culture and should be acknowledged.

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[info]babyblooz
2007-12-22 05:03 pm UTC (link)
"When I was a journalist for 10 years we were told by our bosses that "news" is "what your readers want to read, not what you want them to read.""

Unfuckingbelievable. That is exactly what is wrong with the media. Promoting the dumbing down of society.

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[info]bart_calendar
2007-12-22 05:08 pm UTC (link)
One of many reasons I'm no longer a journalist.

That said, I think there is a news story, a real one, in the collapse of these women.

I just think it hasn't been written yet.

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[info]redsonjasea
2007-12-22 06:05 pm UTC (link)
I feel so bad for what are basically 'kids' acting like adults. They aren't adults. Even adults don't seem to want to act responsibly. I agree with you, it is shocking. Especially the part where the media and public seem gleeful about it.

Hollywood is a sausage factory.

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